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Nvidia RTX 3080s are showing up without their boxes — wait, what? – Tom’s Guide

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If you’re dropping $700 on a brand new Nvidia RTX 3080, it shouldn’t be optimistic to assume it arrives in suitable packaging. Sadly, for early adopters of the EVGA 3080, that simple assumption seems to have been a leap too far.

A handful of posts on Reddit have appeared in recent days showing EVGA 3080 GPUs bought via Newegg arriving without their retail packaging, protected by just a simple anti-static sleeve.

Suffice it to say that without the added layers of protection, some RTX 3080s are looking a little the worse for wear as a result. “I can’t even put it in [the] card slot to use,” said one user. 

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Fortunately, this looks like it’s a couple of isolated incidents. EVGA’s own Jacob Freeman chimed in with an official response: “A very (very) small number of cards looks to have been shipped from Newegg as bulk,” he wrote. 

Bulk ordering, for those who aren’t aware, is when hardware is shipped without retail packaging specifically for businesses looking to use the products directly themselves. The reasoning is pretty straightforward: companies like Newegg don’t care how nice the box is; it costs extra for the supplier to package them up and ship; and the recipient has to spend time unpacking everything.

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It’s just unfortunate that in this case, some units managed to slip the net and end up in customers’ hands without suitable padding, probably via a mistake in the warehouse. 

“They [Newegg] are aware so please contact them and they will help you out,” Freeman continued. 

Nvidia RTX 3080 GPU pre-orders have been just as much of a mess as the PS5 and Xbox Series X pre-order disaster and stock is currently ridiculously hard to come by. So while Newegg may well send you a replacement RTX 3080, there’s no guarantee as to when. If you can get your poorly packaged card working, it might be best just to make due with it as it is, and then trying to negotiate a discount on a future order instead of holding out for a boxed unit.

One thing we can say with confidence is that the RTX 3080 GPU is worth the added hassle. Nvidia claims that the card is up to twice as fast as its RTX 2080 predecessor, and benchmarks certainly seem to back that up – especially if you have a talent for overclocking

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Nvidia RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060 leak suggests an imminent attack on AMD’s Big Navi and midrange GPUs – TechRadar



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Nvidia’s pepped-up version of the RTX 3080 graphics card which doubles the RAM on-board to 20GB is indeed inbound, at least going by another nugget of info from the rumor mill – in this case, direct from a GPU manufacturer.

Videocardz highlighted a slide from a presentation delivered by Galax (GPUs which are branded KFA2 in Europe) which clearly shows the existence of a 20GB version of the RTX 3080 (alongside the launch variant which has 10GB).

The slide also lists an RTX 3060 at the bottom of the range, and it’s no secret that this GPU will be incoming from Nvidia – it’s just a question of when, and maybe this is a hint that it’ll be sooner rather than later.

What reinforces this particular leak is that Gigabyte also recently spilled the beans on the RTX 3080 20GB version, the existence of which was accidentally leaked via a website detailing Watch Dogs: Legion codes (the game that’s being given away free with Ampere graphics cards).

Gigabyte’s listing also revealed the existence of an RTX 3060 ‘S’ version with 8GB of RAM, which could mean a Super variant, although this new leak from Galax just lists a plain RTX 3060 (which makes more sense to us for an initial launch).

The Galax presentation also highlights an as yet unnamed card in the middle of the range – the ‘PG142 SKU 0’ – which will likely be the beefed up variant of the RTX 3070 with 16GB of VRAM (so either the Super or Ti model, presumably). If a supercharged RTX 3080 is coming, of course it makes sense that a 3070 will be too; it’s just a matter of timing, but with the latter still being unnamed in this slide, presumably that’s scheduled for arrival further down the line.

Note that all of this remains speculation and it should be treated carefully, as ever – none of the above might happen, but given the amount of rumors churning around the RTX 3080 spin with 20GB of VRAM (which may or may not be branded a Super GPU), including two leaks from GPU makers now, it’s seeming a safer and safer bet that this is in the cards.

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What also makes sense is the purported timing for the launch of this alleged 20GB version: Nvidia hasn’t yet pinned down a timeframe, mainly because the firm wants to release the new RTX 3080 to steal the thunder from AMD’s Big Navi reveal.

Again, that’s just theorizing, but this is the case according to Videocardz’s sources, and as mentioned, it’s perfectly believable. And of course, bringing in the RTX 3060 perhaps sooner rather than later would challenge AMD’s RX 6000 offerings in the mid-range market.

AMD aside, currently nobody can buy an RTX 3080 anyway, thanks to huge demand and stock issues, but there may be some folks who will be glad they were made to wait if a 20GB version is to become available in the near future.

While Nvidia insists that 10GB of RAM is enough for the RTX 3080 and running contemporary games, there have certainly been those who have expressed disappointment at that quantity of memory, and would probably go for a heftier RAM loadout given the chance. At least as long as the pricing isn’t pushed too much higher by doubling up to 20GB.

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Nvidia’s deal for Arm could mean a real challenge to Intel and AMD, but is likely to face opposition – MarketWatch

Nvidia Corp.’s bold $40 billion deal to buy chip designer Arm Holdings could create a major new threat to both Intel Corp. and Advanced Micro Devices Inc. in the data-center market, but the deal will face two major hurdles along the way.

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— best known for its graphics chips for gamers and servers — said Sunday it had reached an agreement with Softbank Group Corp.
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 to buy Arm Holdings Plc. in a deal valued at $40 billion, in a mix of cash, stock and potential future payouts. Softbank purchased the Cambridge, U.K.-based chip designer in 2017 for more than $32 billion, but has been under pressure by activist investor Elliott Management to sell off some assets, as its balance sheet and portfolio of tech holdings took a heavy hit after the collapse in value of WeWork, one of its big investments.

The deal could make Nvidia a strong direct competitor to Intel, which it passed in market value for the first time earlier this year, and AMD, the two leading developers of microprocessors for PCs and servers based on Intel’s x86 architecture. Up until now, Nvidia and its graphics chips have been complimentary to their microprocessor families, but competitive with their graphics chips. A push into microprocessors, with Nvidia’s ownership of Arm and its different RISC (reduced instruction set computing) architecture, could be the first real challenge to its Silicon Valley neighbors. But Nvidia may face challenges from both regulators and competitors-turned-customers to get there.

Eric Ross, an analyst at Cascend Securities, said in a note that if the deal goes through, “the company who should be the most worried in Intel,” because Nvidia will pick up a central processing unit (CPU) core for the data center, in addition to the inroads it has made with its graphics chips in that market.

“Additional creative designs incorporating the best of CPUs and GPUs into one processor could be advantageous,” he said, adding though that the deal with surely face hurdles from many government regulators — not just the U.S., but from China as well.

Beyond regulatory hurdles, Nvidia could face some outcry from Arm licensees, many of which are Nvidia competitors. Arm is a unique chip company because it only licenses its designs to a wide swath of companies, where they are mostly used in low-power-consuming devices such as smartphones, tablets and wearables.

Arm has over 500 licensees to its technology, and those licensees can tweak the designs and customize them for their own products and customers. Among the biggest Arm customers are Huawei Technologies, Qualcomm Inc.
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MarketWatch reached out to several of the biggest Arm licensees for comments, but so far, only Intel responded, by saying it declined to comment.

Bernstein Research analyst Stacy Rasgon asked Nvidia executives for more details on how they would keep the open-licensee model in the companies’ conference call early Monday. Intimated, but not directly stated, in his question was the concern that some customers might not be comfortable with Arm being owned by a competitor.

“We would protect the confidentiality information of all of our customers the way we do today and the way that Arm does today,” Nvidia co-founder and Chief Executive Jensen Huang responded. “Neither of us really know what the customers are doing with our technology. And of course, we work with every company in the world, and so does Arm work with every computer company in the world. We keep everybody’s confidentiality protected.”

Rasgon said in a note to clients that if Nvidia can pull it off, “Nvidia’s dominance will be extended into virtually every important compute domain which has undeniable strategic value, giving the company the opportunity to potentially differentiate along that path through ownership in ways that they could not if they were simple licensees [of Arm].”

Evercore ISI Securities said Nvidia will help expand the Arm architecture even further in servers and into networking infrastructure and embedded artificial-intelligence markets, but the analysts remained concerned about regulatory approval.

Nvidia executives told analysts on a conference call that they expected regulatory approval to take about 18 months, which is longer than the average approval cycle. In response to a question about China, Huang said that the issue for export controls is not the ownership of Arm’s intellectual property, but the origin of the IP, which was created in the United Kingdom.

“The IP of Arm was originated, created, developed over three decades in Cambridge,” Huang said. “And so the amount of code, the amount of innovation is measured in thousands of human years. And so the IP will essentially stay in the U.K., the headquarters of Arm will be in the U.K.”

Even with that optimism, Rasgon noted that Arm’s licensees are likely to be “up in arms.”

“There would seem to be risk that Nvidia ownership will impair the current value of the asset,” he said.

Huang and Co. may be facing one of Nvidia’s toughest battles yet, but if they win over regulators and Arm customers, the company has a chance to be the new Chip King of Silicon Valley over a pair of longtime rivals.

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Nvidia reportedly to acquire ARM Holdings from SoftBank for $40 billion – Ars Technica

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