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Tesla’s new 4680 battery cells have been deployed in working vehicles for months – Teslarati

Elon Musk recently clarified that Tesla’s new 4680 cells are already being deployed in some of its vehicles as prototypes. Even more interesting is that the next-generation batteries have already been in use for several months, though the CEO did not state which of its vehicles are equipped with the 4680 Roadrunner batteries.

The Tesla CEO related his update in a recent post on Twitter. While responding to a question about the company’s strategy with its cathodes and its suppliers, Musk noted that Tesla’s own battery cells are already powering some of its cars. That being said, Musk clarified that ultimately, prototypes such as cars that currently run on the company’s 4680 cells are trivial, as they are incomparably simpler than actual volume production.

Suppliers. We’re only doing high energy nickel ourselves, at least for now. Also, maybe the presentation wasn’t clear that we’ve actually had our cells in packs driving cars for several months. Prototypes are trivial, volume production is hard.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 26, 2020

“We’re only doing high energy nickel ourselves, at least for now. Also, maybe the presentation wasn’t clear that we’ve actually had our cells in packs driving cars for several months. Prototypes are trivial, volume production is hard,” Musk wrote.

Interestingly enough, Elon Musk noted that Tesla is only producing cells that feature high-energy nickel cathodes for now. During Battery Day, Tesla’s slide outlining its cathode strategy listed the Semi and the Cybertruck as vehicles that will be using high-energy nickel. However, the CEO did not confirm if the Cybertruck prototype or the twin Semis doing road tests across the United States are now equipped with 4680 cells. Such a scenario seems plausible as both vehicles only have prototypes today.

(Credit: Tesla)

Using 4680 cells for the Cybertruck and the Semi would be strategic for Tesla, especially since both are heavy-duty machines that are designed to be as tough as possible. The Cybertruck is quite literally created to topple the kings of the pickup market, and the Semi is designed to disrupt the long-haul segment, which is known for its consistent, heavy demands for its vehicles. Needless to say, Tesla’s mettle as an automaker will be put to the test by the Cybertruck and Semi, and their 4680 high-nickel cells could be their trump card against the competition.

That being said, the first vehicle that would likely be released with Tesla’s 4680 cells will be the Model S Plaid, which was announced on Battery Day. The Model S Plaid is Tesla’s most insane sedan yet, with its 0-60 mph time of less than 2 seconds, its top speed of 200 mph, sub-9-second quarter-mile time, and three motors that produce 1,100 hp. The fact that the vehicle has a range of over 520 miles despite its performance-oriented tune hints at just how disruptive Tesla’s 4680 cells really are. The Model S Plaid was announced for a 2021 release date, though speculations are abounding that the vehicle may see a release sooner than expected.

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Tesla Battery Day: biggest announcements – The Verge

At Tesla’s Battery Day event, CEO Elon Musk made some big announcements: the company’s moves toward eliminating cobalt in its batteries, a new Plaid powertrain for the Model S that could get to speeds of 200 mph, and a new cathode plant to streamline its battery production. And, with the new battery technology, Musk has said Tesla will make a $25,000 car.

The socially-distanced outdoor event had Musk and other presenters addressing Tesla shareholders in parked cars, who honked their horns to indicate their approval of the speakers’ remarks— almost like a drive-in movie/shareholders meeting.

Here are the main takeaways from Tesla’s 2020 battery day:

Tabless battery cells will improve Teslas’ range

Tesla plans to manufacture its own “tabless” batteries, which will improve its vehicles’ range and power. The new batteries will be produced in-house, which Musk says will reduce costs and bring the sale price of Tesla electric cars closer to gasoline-powered cars. It’s expected to lower Tesla’s cost per kilowatt hour, a key metric used to measure electric vehicles’ battery packs. The tabless cells (Tesla is removing the tab that connects the cell and what it’s powering), which Tesla is calling the 4860 cells, will make its batteries six times more powerful and increase range by 16 percent.

Tesla currently sources its batteries from Panasonic, and is likely to keep doing so for some time, but moving battery production in house has been on Musk’s to-do list for some time; in 2018 a shortage of those cells added to production delays. Musk has said the pace of battery production at Panasonic had slowed production of both the Model 3 and the Model Y.

Model S Plaid will cost $139,990 and be available in 2021

Musk has been teasing the Plaid powertrain for a while, which will be a step above its Ludicrous model. It will have a range between charges of 520 miles, get from 0-60 mph in under two seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph. The price is listed on Tesla’s website at $139,990. Musk had noted in the past that a Plaid trim level would “cost more than our current offerings,” which it does. It will be available in the Model S in late 2021.

A new cathode plant is coming… eventually

Musk said Tesla will build a new cathode plant for its batteries in North America, part of its quest to reduce supply chain costs and simplify cathode production. It’s also making improvements to its process that will make cathodes 76 percent cheaper, and produce zero wastewater. The company also plans to diversify the cathodes it uses, because of low nickel supplies.

We don’t know where the new cathode plant will be built, but Musk said in July when Tesla announced its next factory would be in Austin, Texas that he would “strongly consider” runner-up city Tulsa, Oklahoma for future projects.

No more cobalt in the cathodes

Tesla plans to eliminate the use of cobalt in its cathodes. Musk has said he wanted to eliminate it entirely in the past — even though Tesla’s existing batteries use very little. Cobalt is often mined under conditions that violate human rights, which has led to a push to find other materials to replace it.

Musk didn’t offer a timeline for when the company will stop using cobalt but said it will make its batteries significantly cheaper.

“It’s absolutely critical that we make cars that people can people can actually afford,” he said. “Affordability is key to how we scale.”

A $25,000 car is a new goal

Tesla plans to reduce the cost of its battery cells and packs, with an end goal of building a $25,000 electric car. Tesla will hit this goal using its new “tabless” battery cells, and changing the materials inside the cell, which he said should allow Tesla to “halve” the price per kilowatt-hour, Musk said.

This isn’t the first time Musk has predicted that Tesla would dramatically reduce the costs of its electric cars. He first promised a $25,000 EV back in 2018, which he said was possible within three years.

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Motorola Edge Plus battery life test complete: one of the best around – PhoneArena

Motorola Edge Plus battery life test complete: one of the best around

The Motorola Edge Plus is the best smartphone that Motorola has in 2020: exclusive to Verizon Wireless in the United States, the Edge Plus comes with the best processor you can get on an Android phone at the time, the Snapdragon 865, it is equipped with a big 6.7-inch AMOLED screen with gorgeous colors and it’s got a fast, 90Hz refresh rate that makes everything appears extra smooth.

But what about the battery life on the Motorola Edge Plus?

The phone comes with a massive, 5,000mAh battery inside, and that’s one of the biggest battery sizes on a phone this year comparable only to the much more expensive Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra.

Needless to say, we were excited to test the battery life on the Motorola Edge Plus and put it through our extensive PhoneArena battery tests: web browsing, YouTube video streaming and 3D gaming. But first, let’s start with…

Motorola Edge Plus 90Hz vs 60Hz Battery Life tested

While the Motorola Edge Plus is set to work at the smoother 90Hz refresh rate mode, if you want to maximize battery life, you can go into the display settings and change it to a more traditional 60Hz refresh rate.

What effect does this have on battery life? Good news is that it’s not a huge effect: battery life improves by about 5% in our testing, and while it all depends on how you use your phone we definitely don’t see a huge difference in battery life and we would recommend you stick with the much smoother and pleasing 90Hz refresh rate option.

Good news is that the Motorola Edge Plus is also the longest lasting 90Hz phone we have tested so far, beating the OnePlus 8 powered by the same Snapdragon 865 processor but a smaller 4,300mAh battery by a bit.

Motorola Edge Plus YouTube Video Streaming battery life test

While not quite a record holder in YouTube video playback times, the Edge Plus performed very good with video streaming. It was able to last 9 hours and 48 minutes of continuous YouTube video playback, a bit longer than even the iPhone 11 Pro Max, and significantly longer than the Google Pixel 4 XL and iPhone 11.

If you are watching a lot of videos on your phone, the Motorola Edge Plus is a good choice because it will last longer than most.

Motorola Edge Plus 3D Gaming battery test 

We also test 3D gaming, a different and interesting test because it puts the stress on the graphics chip, while the other tests stress the CPU of a phone.

And the Motorola Edge Plus held its ground well with a score of about 8 hours and a half. That’s right in line with the Galaxy S20+, for instance, but noticeably less than rival OnePlus 8 which seems to do better in terms of its power management for gaming. If you are a gamer, you won’t be disappointed with the battery life on the Motorola Edge Plus, but if you want the very best battery life for gaming, the OnePlus 8 might be a better option. You can

read our in-depth dive with the OnePlus 8 here.


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OnePlus 8 Pro battery: Can you run that 120Hz display all day? – Android Authority

OnePlus 8 Pro camera array

The desire for better smartphone battery life is in a constant tug-of-war with demands for superior hardware. With the OnePlus 8 Pro, not only is the move to 5G more draining on battery life but the handset sports a cutting edge 120Hz QHD display as well. To ensure the phone hands in a full day of use, OnePlus packs in its largest every battery into the 8 Pro.

The OnePlus 8 Pro battery capacity is 4,510mAh, slightly larger than the regular OnePlus 8’s 4,300mAh and larger than the OnePlus 7 Pro’s 4,085mAh cell. That should really help offset some of the phone’s more power-hungry technologies. Although as we’ll find out, bigger batteries don’t always mean longer battery life.

Here’s everything that you need to know about the OnePlus8 Pro’s battery life.

Don’t miss: OnePlus 8 Pro buyers’ guide – Everything you need to know

How long does OnePlus 8 Pro battery last?

For starters, how much battery life can you get from a full OnePlus 8 Pro charge? We noted about a day and a half’s use from the device with some heavy workloads during our review. We typically unplugged the OnePlus 8 Pro at around 10am and it didn’t run out of battery until 6pm the next day. Using data rather than WiFi drains the battery a tad faster, giving you about 1.25 days of full use. Either way, you won’t be reaching for the charger by mid-afternoon.

If you’re curious how the phone stacks up against the competition, we’ve run the phone through our brutal Speed Test G suite for a look at worst-case battery life.

Smartphone STG battery life

The OnePlus 8 Pro is a decent performer, clocking in 3 hours 30 minutes as a minimum, with plenty of demanding gaming thrown in. That’s right in the mix with current-gen flagships, but some way behind the leaders. Interestingly, the standard OnePlus 8 manages longer screen on time, due to its slower 90Hz refresh rate. Still, the OnePlus 8 series does a fraction better than the last-gen OnePlus 7T range.

If you do need to charge the phone up in a hurry, OnePlus has you covered with a 30W charger included in the box. There’s also 30W wireless charging support, although it’s not quite as fast as the wired option. Wireless is about 15 minutes slower to full charge but still hits 50% capacity in just 29 minutes compared to 23 minutes for wired. The OnePlus 8 Pro also supports reverse wireless charging to power up your other gadgets, but it’s very slow at just 3W.

Related: How fast is OnePlus’ Warp Charge 30 Wireless?

OnePlus 8 Pro battery life at 120Hz

The OnePlus 8 Pro has a big enough battery to easily take you through more than a full day of use. But can you obtain an even longer battery life by switching the 120Hz display down to 60Hz? We’ve crunched the numbers for you.

Switching the OnePlus 8 Pro to 60Hz mode yields a notable 36-minute improvement in this extreme test. Heavy users and gamers will definitely notice a longer screen on time with 60Hz. However, this difference won’t be anywhere near as pronounced for lighter use cases, such as web and social browsing. Oddly, the standard OnePlus 8 shows absolutely no difference between 60Hz and 90Hz modes. This is likely due to the display processing hardware differences between the two handsets, and the fact that 120Hz content processing is more demanding than 90Hz.

The OnePlus 8 Pro easily lasts a full day, even in 120Hz mode. But it lasts even longer running at 60Hz.

Overall, switching to 60Hz isn’t necessary unless you’re an extremely heavy user who needs to eke out up to an extra hour in a day. Remember, the OnePlus 8 Pro’s display already dynamically scales its frame rate depending on the content you’re watching. Our extreme battery test is heavy on the 3D gaming, which has a greater impact on the OnePlus 8 Pro battery life than the display alone.

The bottom line is you’re fine to leave 120Hz on without having to worry about battery life. The OnePlus 8 Pro easily lasts a full day and then some.

Read more: The OnePlus 8 Pro has the best display we’ve ever tested

Other frequently asked questions

Q: How to improve battery life on the OnePlus 8 Pro?

A: Turning the display resolution down to FHD+ and 60Hz can improve battery life slightly. Using a 4G rather than 5G data connection can also lower power consumption. For more tips, be sure to check out our battery life-saving guide.

Q: Does the OnePlus 8 Pro offer wireless charging?

A: Yes, the OnePlus 8 Pro offers fast 30W wireless charging and 3W reverse wireless charging. Wireless charging isn’t quite as fast as wired, but OnePlus’ solution is one of the fastest around.

Q: Does the OnePlus 8 Pro support Quick Charge?

A: Yes. But it’s faster to charge with the in-box charger or a USB Power Delivery charger.

Q: Does the OnePlus 8 Pro support USB Power Delivery?

A: Yes. However it is faster to charge with the in-box charger.

Q: Is the OnePlus 8 Pro battery removable?

A: No, the OnePlus 8 Pro does not feature a removable battery.

Q: Can the OnePlus 8 Pro battery be replaced?

A: Yes. OnePlus offers official battery replacements through its repair service. The price at the time of writing is $20 for a new battery, not including labor and shipping costs.

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